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re: Next version thoughts

xelaenil — Sat, 13 Mar 2010 22:20:28 GMT

Support for Mac, what happened. There is a whole group trying to port or that have ported the old WP 3.5 for mac. Windows users use Word, mac users want to use wp but Corel leaves them with no option. We want WP on mac!!!!

re: Next version thoughts

xelaenil — Sat, 13 Mar 2010 22:17:37 GMT

How about, inking abilities, to wrtie with your handwriting and and have WP save it as such or covert it to text.

re: Do any lawyers out there work on TOAs?

Kenneth Hobson — Fri, 19 Feb 2010 17:04:45 GMT

This discussion at wpu might provide some in-cite or alternatives. www.wpuniverse.com/.../showthread.php

re: WordPerfect in the Top 10 - One award I could live without

wpkyne — Tue, 02 Feb 2010 02:24:03 GMT

I agree wholeheartedly with the comments above!!

I have been a WordPerfect owner & user since 4.0/4.1/4.2. I've been a proponent/owner/user of each version through X3 on most every platform (Unix/Linux, Dos, Win, mac, AtariST, DG, etc -- even WPShell -- ).

I remember when WordPerfect Corporation was world renowned for its Customer Service. I did work for WP Corp, then Novell as a contractor in those days.

I have also worked as an integrator, integrating WordPerfect with other applications to generate custom reports, Mail-Merges, etc. including DDE & OLE. PerfectScript was an excellent tool for this, and for most tasks a far superior tool to vba.

I am still convinced that WordPerfect is far and away the best word processor/document processor available anywhere (I know Quark users are agasp, but they've lived in such a small part of the real world...)

I only hope that Corel quits its half-hearted attitude towards WordPerfect and quit trying to make WordPerfect as lame as msword!!

Release a Linux Version!!! The Linux market is full of people wanting the power & ease of use that only WordPerfect can offer!!! I come across people wanting this every day!!! It would not be a very difficult migration as most of the code is written in C/C++ already. Please give the Linux market a real try!! (Don't even consider 8 a trial as that was an old version -- compared to its windows counterpart -- when it was released, and then never supported/marketed/anything.)

Perhaps I should start a developer community to create an Open-Source WordPerfect clone...

re: WordPerfect in the Top 10 - One award I could live without

lynnjamie68 — Fri, 29 Jan 2010 18:41:34 GMT

Perfectly said Jay! I couldn't agree more!

re: WordPerfect in the Top 10 - One award I could live without

masilver — Mon, 25 Jan 2010 17:50:39 GMT

Perhaps just give WP away to students, or for a ridiculous price of like $5. Unless you derive a large profit from that group, you aren't losing much, and it may actually increase sales.

It would also be nice to have online storage of documents. I know this is already available from many sources, but none with deep integration of word perfect.

So perhaps you get automatic versioning, the ability to view documents from any browser, the ability to share documents with other email addresses, etc. Perhaps there is a free version with a small amount of storage. Perhaps if you prepay for storage for a year you get WP for free. You could sell a version to law firms where their documents are shared within an office, etc. Some interesting possibilities.

re: Twitter for lawyers (and others)

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re: X4 in my words

Darry D — Sun, 17 Jan 2010 21:42:00 GMT

If it weren't for the problems I'm having trying to insert JPG into my WP documents in Windows 7, I would continue to love X4. However, as I described in one of the other threads, once I used File > Publish to PDF, I can no longer insert JPG into a document. WP X4 reports it as a non-supported format. Yes, I can insert that same JPG in WP X3 on a Vista or XP system.

I do appreciate that all the macros that I created in X3 can be used in X4, after I edit the location of the macro line.

re: PerfectScript Example 1 Part 1 - Retrieve filenames from a directory

blankreg — Tue, 29 Dec 2009 19:25:20 GMT

So... Where's part 2?

re: Do any lawyers out there work on TOAs?

petekohn — Sat, 19 Dec 2009 16:33:10 GMT

Glad you asked. Runjean is absolutely right. Now that none of the third-party TOA auto-generation programs support WP (though I have a call into West to discuss the pricing of the software version of theirs, which apparently is compatible), it is a frustrating experience. Before, the programs would at least take a WP doc, though the output was in Word and required a lot of cleanup. But now you have to convert the doc to Word altogether, which yields page cites that are totally wrong. That's just not workable.

YOU NEED TO INLICENSE A TOA AUTO-GENERATION PROGRAM. Or write one (how hard could that be?). Or get West or Lexis or Levitt & James to make theirs compatible with WP. Or explain to us why they won't do so (if it has anything to do with Microsoft, there might be a good case there).

The "mark as you go" thing is for the birds. I won't use it and never will.

The lack of a workable TOA auto-generation program for WP is going to make it difficult for me to stick wtih WP. I have secretly stuck with WP when my firm has switched to Word. But this might be a deal-breaker.

I am happy to discuss this with you further. It's important, to us and to you.

re: Do any lawyers out there work on TOAs?

runjean — Sat, 12 Dec 2009 04:30:31 GMT

I write long briefs and using TOA is too cumbersome and time consuming. I have always used West's westcitelink until I just recently upgraded to wpx4. Westcitelink is not compatible. I am going to downgrade back to wp12. Can you create a patch to make westcitelink compatible to wpx4?

re: WordPerfect in the Top 10 - One award I could live without

simplyes — Thu, 10 Dec 2009 12:33:35 GMT

WordPerfect (WP) has always been a superior tool compared to Microsoft Word (MSW). I have to use MSW where I work for some tasks (by order!) but for the vast majority of what I do (and it's not just letters!), I use WP.

The entry into the Windows arena was slow, late and badly implemented (that was pre-Corel, of course!) and I am inclined to think a lot of damage was done to the WP market then. The product itself made a thorough recovery in the hands of Corel and remains the beter product in terms of;

design logic (can anyone tell me why [Page setup] in MSW comes under [File] instead of [Format]?),

usability & control (ever tried editting a MSW document that has bullet points, or editting a table?)

funcionality -- main and context menus much more logical and [Reveal Codes] is an essential for any word processor ... but is only found in WP.

quality -- WP is clearly designed for the user rather than for the market.

I do have a criticism, though. I feel that WP marketting in the UK is weak. The vast majority have either never heard of WP or think it ceased after the famous blue screen of v5.2. The rest assume MSW must be the best because, "well, everyone else uses it, don't they?" Local councils use MSW, therefore schools use it, therefore students etc.

The education market needs educating!

My role includes technical support for others in the office and whenever they have a problem with MSW (a frequent occurrence) they know that at some point I will say 'WP doesn't have that problem'. They are all now beyond getting irritated by that statement because they have seen it to be true!

Perhaps a more agressive pricing structure for councils and schools might expand the market share. I wonder whether, if the Linux version was revived/refined & a Mac version produced, maybe those who famously think less highly of Microsoft products will help to make WP better known? And is it not worth producing a version for 'Home & Student' that undercuts 'the opposition'?

re: Do any lawyers out there work on TOAs?

Veronica125 — Sat, 14 Nov 2009 00:20:01 GMT

I used to teach legal secretaries how to prepare a ToA. The firm was using Full Authority. I taught them to use Full Authority to find out what to mark but to use WordPerfect's ToA feature to mark the document. Sometimes Full Authority couldn't find any cases in a document that had dozens of cases--it was not reliable enough for us to depend on it.

Depending on their attorney's requirements, I would adjust the class: Sometimes their attorneys only used 3 headings in their briefs: cases, statutes, and "other." Other secretaries worked for attorneys who wanted the cites separated out as BK23 described in his/her post.

re: Do any lawyers out there work on TOAs?

BK23 — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 08:31:23 GMT

I too use them with 5.1. I haven't used them on Windows WP and can't comment on using them there. I have had nothing but problems trying to use WP Windows. Most recently I got a copy of X3 and can't even install it.

The first secret to using them is to recognize that you have to have a standard for the identifier of each type of authority. I have standard numbers for cases; constitutions, federal; constitutions, state; statutes, federal; statutes, state; rules, federal; rules, state; rules, local; and secondary sources. I have never had the problem of insufficient numbers, but it could happen.

The second secret is that you will never remember the numbers You have to write a macro to select the number from a prompt of the various types.

The third secret is recognition that there is a lot to automating the process of preparing the TOA entries.. Among the issues are copying case names and statute numbers from text, remembering short form identifiers, entering short form codes, and finding inevitable duplicate codes. Without automating this process, doing it would drive me nuts.

I think the WP TOA is better than an external program because it automatically comes out whenever you regenerate the headings and you don't have to go through an extra step to get it.

re: WordPerfect in the Top 10 - One award I could live without

Laura Acklen — Tue, 03 Nov 2009 21:12:02 GMT

Yeah - well said! :)